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Dec 15, 2022

Back before The Spaniard was in the UFC, he intersected with Jon Bier through the Tokyo Five brand and Ariel Helwani. Now Jon and Spanny are on each other’s podcasts at the same time—because each of them thought he was hosting the other! Listen for the moment of revelation a few minutes in. They go on to review Spanny’s career and the remarkable trajectory of the UFC, and they trade notes about career-building. Soon, Jon will be back as the guest, and we'll hear more of his story.


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